85 to 88 Suzuki LT230S Quadsport help.
07-24-2011, 05:45 PM
yes i have learned well, master kenobi 
. i will use the force.
i even learned some neat tricks with the clutch system for a 230s.
have the steel drive plates mic'ed. if they are 1.6mm. you add a 2mm plate in the middle of the stack. it helps the clutch to grab hard and no slip at all. this will only work if your engine# is 104361 and higher.
well off to the Vault i go to update some new info.
. i will use the force.i even learned some neat tricks with the clutch system for a 230s.
have the steel drive plates mic'ed. if they are 1.6mm. you add a 2mm plate in the middle of the stack. it helps the clutch to grab hard and no slip at all. this will only work if your engine# is 104361 and higher.
well off to the Vault i go to update some new info.
07-24-2011, 06:57 PM
07-24-2011, 07:38 PM
Pro Rider
well yeah that too. but adding that 2mm steel drive plate is an improvement all in itself. it tightens the stack by .4mm but its noticable on take off and hill climbing.
i know .4mm doesnt seem like much, at least thats what i thought. until the guy that owns our local atv shop let me ride a 450r with a standard clutch pack and another 450r with a .5mm thicker plate in the center of its clutch. it was way noticable, stronger clutch pull and i could launch faster with the extra .5mm plate. i guess it some what applies to what you taught me randy, i shaved a few lugs of a tire, shed some more weight here and there and what a difference it makes.
its just hard to believe that suzuki would offer 2 different clutch packs for the 230s. but after researching it the one is a first gen pack for the 1400ml block and when they made the 1600ml block and 2000ml block, they changed it to the 2nd gen pack. the stack height was shorter in the first gen and couldnt handle the torque very well.
i know .4mm doesnt seem like much, at least thats what i thought. until the guy that owns our local atv shop let me ride a 450r with a standard clutch pack and another 450r with a .5mm thicker plate in the center of its clutch. it was way noticable, stronger clutch pull and i could launch faster with the extra .5mm plate. i guess it some what applies to what you taught me randy, i shaved a few lugs of a tire, shed some more weight here and there and what a difference it makes.
its just hard to believe that suzuki would offer 2 different clutch packs for the 230s. but after researching it the one is a first gen pack for the 1400ml block and when they made the 1600ml block and 2000ml block, they changed it to the 2nd gen pack. the stack height was shorter in the first gen and couldnt handle the torque very well.
07-24-2011, 08:20 PM
well yeah that too. but adding that 2mm steel drive plate is an improvement all in itself. it tightens the stack by .4mm but its noticable on take off and hill climbing.
i know .4mm doesnt seem like much, at least thats what i thought. until the guy that owns our local atv shop let me ride a 450r with a standard clutch pack and another 450r with a .5mm thicker plate in the center of its clutch. it was way noticable, stronger clutch pull and i could launch faster with the extra .5mm plate.
its just hard to believe that suzuki would offer 2 different clutch packs for the 230s. but after researching it the one is a first gen pack for the 1400ml block and when they made the 1600ml block and 2000ml block, they changed it to the 2nd gen pack. the stack height was shorter in the first gen and couldnt handle the torque very well.
i know .4mm doesnt seem like much, at least thats what i thought. until the guy that owns our local atv shop let me ride a 450r with a standard clutch pack and another 450r with a .5mm thicker plate in the center of its clutch. it was way noticable, stronger clutch pull and i could launch faster with the extra .5mm plate.
its just hard to believe that suzuki would offer 2 different clutch packs for the 230s. but after researching it the one is a first gen pack for the 1400ml block and when they made the 1600ml block and 2000ml block, they changed it to the 2nd gen pack. the stack height was shorter in the first gen and couldnt handle the torque very well.
I suppose the extra disk makes it last longer.
07-24-2011, 08:46 PM
Pro Rider
i'll be back later. still updating the Vault.
07-24-2011, 09:01 PM
Pro Rider
07-24-2011, 09:01 PM
according to Suzuki that wasnt the case. they expected more torque from the 250s so the extra plates were added. it was more of a safety precaution than anything else. I'll tell you what international calls are expensive. i'm glad i wasnt on longer than an hour and a half, it costed me $23.00 just for that call. No Suzuki dealer in the U.S could explain why there was 2 different packs. And good luck understanding the Suzuki tech support in Japan. I could barely understand them.
i'll be back later. still updating the Vault.
i'll be back later. still updating the Vault.
I don't think the extra plate increases the friction, which would be needed to holeshot better. Seems the only added benefit is more plate surface area which would translate to less heat and wear per disk per hour. To get more friction you either have to increase the force applied or increase the coefficient of friction
07-24-2011, 09:05 PM
07-24-2011, 09:15 PM
Pro Rider
What wasn't the case?
I don't think the extra plate increases the friction, which would be needed to holeshot better. Seems the only added benefit is more plate surface area which would translate to less heat and wear per disk per hour. To get more friction you either have to increase the force applied or increase the coefficient of friction
I don't think the extra plate increases the friction, which would be needed to holeshot better. Seems the only added benefit is more plate surface area which would translate to less heat and wear per disk per hour. To get more friction you either have to increase the force applied or increase the coefficient of friction
07-24-2011, 09:17 PM
Pro Rider
thanks. i will be adding a section for the lt230e also in the future. i cant find anything on the lt230geg anywhere. so if anyone owns one i feel sorry for them. parts, info, or any specs are not out there because they were not popular quads.