The thing with CA is we have this weird idea that it's a good idea to mix 80,000 18-wheelers traveling at 55MPH with automobiles weiging in at 4000-5000lbs traveling 55, 60, 65 or 70MPH. Generally the big rigs have to stay in the right lane(s). IIRC 2 lane in one direction they are limited to the right lane unless overtaking another vehicle. On 3 lane in one direction I'm slightly confused on whether they are allowed to travel in the middle lane or only allowed to pass. On 4 lanes they can travel in the right two lanes. Now all that gets thrown out the window in Truck Contol Lanes. I know there is one on Freeway 99 going through Fresno where the center lane is a Truck Control Lane. So I have guess 3 lane is the same as 2 lanes.

Most of the big rigs here run 60MPH up and down the highway (99). Sometimes you'll get some doing 55 (generall the Wally-World guys) or doing 65. I usually figure if there's a pack running 65 then the PoPo isn't anywhere to be found. If they are running 55 means they are crawling all over the place. And if I see a shadow from above on the freeway...mean they are watching from above.

I think MD can answer this, when they run air patrol how do they clock you? Do they use a stop watch and markers on the ground? Cause IIRC, they aren't allowed to use embedded sensors. Seems like matching speed would be a bugger. But with GPS they can see what they actual ground speed is, as compared to just the air speed.

On that note, did anyone hear about the dude getting the ticket for doing 205 on a crotch rocket? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img] Happened in the midewest, IIRC. Wow. I can only imagine the fine. He was clocked from the air via marks and a stop watch. Obviously he got a free ride to the Gray Bar Hotel for that move.

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Ohh i hear ya there. although I will if there is an easy space where i wont have to slow down slide over and let the goat lure out the wolf [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

 

MD, who was questioning your integrity? or was that just a general comment? I agree if you can't believe the police, who can you believe. but over the past few years I've never seen such huge deteoration in police credibility. the lying and cover-ups have been awful, locally. a few brief examples: an "accused" child molester/murderer (Shannon Murrin) got off his charge cuz the police flagrantly lied and were contradicted on the stand. they arranged to have him beaten by neighbors, then lied about it.

a loser died while being arrested. 2 police officers gave a BS sugar-coated version, 1 independent witness (who was a credible person) said the officer pistol-whipped the guy on the back of the neck after being hand-cuffed, causing his fatal injury. nothing close to that came out in police testimony.

a group of officers took some low-level, low-life drug dealers to a park and kicked the crap outta them, then lied.

In all 3 occasions, I probably would have done the same as the police outta frustration, or just wanting some good 'ol vigilante justice that our ***** system won't administer. And i wouldn't want to walk a mile in the policeman's shoes to deal with day-in/day -out scumbags and not at least get to adminster the occasional baton-whack to the back of some deserving puke's head. but don't fabricate a string of BS when ya get caught. OR, have a better plan and cover story, cuz ya sure lose all integrity and credibility when ya get caught.

BTW, i have friends that have left RCMP general duties cuz of repeatedly dealing with the lowest of the low, and volunteered for traffic duty (which is considered by some cops to be the graveyard of policing). They tell me the clientele in traffic are mostly all good, honest hard-working folk that get nuked for traffic violations. nicer to deal with, even if they're po'ed about getting a fine and get yappy sometimes. don't have to worry as much about wrestlin an outta control junkie and getting poked with an aids infested needle.

my old (now retired) partner was a former RCMP. He was first stationed in remote Alberta after finishing RCMP training in Regina. You mostly wrestle drunk indians in those places. For traffic court they had a "magistrate". He wasn't a judge or ex-lawyer, he was a local businessman who owned a car dealership in the area. One time a kid disputed a ticket and he asked him, "How do you plead?" The kid said, "Not guilty." The magistrate replied,"If ya weren't guilty, you wouldn't be here now, would ya?!" Gotta love the old west justice of yesteryear!

As for our traffic court, it's completely slanted against the person. Conviction rate is high 90%. They ALWAYS believe police PERIOD. I had a dispute where my plate # was written down wrong. there were other flaws in the charge, but i didn't argue them cuz generally, whatever is written on the ticket MUST be proved. The judge (woman) said, the cop just made a mistake, you're still guilty. I'm like, "well DUH!, that's why you dismiss the charge!"Since when did they start using common sense!? It shoulda been a walk for me. PLUS, our risk of disputing is that you can get a much stiffer penalty, usually a much higher fine than what the cop originally issued. Especially if you have any prior tickets.

Yep, you have a much better chance of getting away with murder or rape than a traffic offence. I think it's got a lot to do with the revenue it brings in. They want to send a message: don't bother disputing cuz ya wouldn't be here if you weren't guilty. there is some truth to it, but whatever happened to a fair and unbiased trial/hearing?

 

Man trucks up here are doin 70 -100 .. watch out for them log trucks they can flat giddy up if the bears are in the den. if the bears are out foraging well then the rubber duck lets off. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] My buddys log truck they were i a convoy and I couldnt keep up in the lil ford i was on the governer and they pulled me. sons of biatchs.

 

Trasher I know what you mean. I usually try to run the middle lane and not bob and weave as it just screams "I'm speeding! Give me a ticket!" But some people just HAVE to get by you and can't wait. Usually it happens to me on a road where it's 2 lane in one direction. THough I get over when I can. Usually run 70 on a 65MPH road. That's if it's normal traffic and not insane bumper to bumper. It gets bumper to bumper around here and it slows WAY down.

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skid-mark head, I'm with Toyo on this. show some courtesy, get outta the way for the fast ones and then you can go back into your lane at your pace. your way of thinkin is the exact same for the granny doin 62; she thinks that's fast enough, so go around. I always move over for someone who wants to pass PROVIDED it's not bumper to bumper traffic. my buddy from Canada moved down to LA and was telling me they have the best drivers in the world there, mostly cuz of the right to bear arms. he said he was driving the way you just described, "i'm going fast enough , so go around me". The next light ( I guess it wasn't a freeway), the guy pulled up beside him and was tapping his gun on his steering wheel. never pointed it at my bud, but he got a good driving lesson that day, and now when he's going 85mph, if someone wants to pass him, he moves over toute-suite (french, for RIGHT NOW), nd then moves back into the lane.

nope, gotta disagree with ya on that one.

 

Boy oh boy Confused shows up and slaps out a long ol' dissertation which can be summarized like this.
A) If your gonna beat the crap outta the suspect, Say i beat the crap outta him because he was selling drugs to little children and he deserved to die but i will leave that part of it to the discrescion of the court.

B) You dont wanna live in a pussified Socialist society!! Vote Bush/Cheney!!![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] its good to have canadian support!

C) Canadian courts got the revenue system right. if ya goto court you get stiffer penalties thus lowering the overhead to process the ticket under the origional fine [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]

D) would you quite reffering to business associates as partners. with all this Homo crap goin on i keep getting this picture in my head about you and your "Partner" Boofing the exit. its just not pretty. The G!AYS have ruined some innocent terms.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img]

 

It's very rare I ever see a trucker pulling 70 around here. That's just asking to be bent over. Not sure up there, but I believe in CA for commercial lic. you get 1.5x points and double fines. And ther are certain circumstances for commercial licenses where you commercial lic. will be revoked for certain offenses...like if someone gets hurt and you were doing something illegal. Of course DUI you auto lose your lic. no matter what (commercial or regular) but the commercial guys can't ever get it back. They can get a Class C, but that's it. BAC is also limited to 0.01% (as it is for anyone under 21.)

I had a friend who had his Class A, got stopped for going over the limit line at a railroad crossing in a regular car. Still got dinged for $1200 in fines. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img]

This is going back to the traffic school thing a couple pages back: My friend who got nailed pulling that trailer while speeding wasn't able to take traffic school. She had a ticket 6 mos. prior in another county. Though the fact she was pulling a trailer maybe that had something to do with it. First ticket was in Kings County (maybe Tulare County as she worked in Visalia) and the second ticket was in Kern County.

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LMAO @ Toyo on the partner thing. I worked for a non-profit HIV service provider (generating reports and fixing computers) so I was one of 2 straight guys that worked there. The other 4 or 5 guys were g!ay. 3/4 of the women were lesbian. So I pretty much automatically connect "partner" to "lover" or significant other. Unless I know for a fact that someone is talking about a business partner. I always refer to business partners as business partner. Ok, that's lame. dbeck can you PLEASE take it out of the filter? Really, is it a problem? I doubt he'll see it but I've said my peace. Oh yeah, where the heck is my stuff!?

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Well im not the only one that has bad visions of Confused and his Ga!yness [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

And yeah I want my stickers [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] I gonna have to sign up agin cuz i only get two for my quad what about my truckls?